ways to leave my church: in a conflict or in a coffin. He taught how beneficial they were( to control the people). I stormed out and have never been back. I live in Bangkok and most churches are like this. No, I dont blame you at all for leaving that stuff. So here I was and all that I had believed in was gone. I'm sorry you experienced that op, but I'm glad it didn't deter your faith! We thats why there so many of them who admit faking tongues. of a meeting. I find that so laughable now to look at people who are expressional during worship as a definitive sign that God is moving. No thinking Christian could or should attempt to dispute them. Thats my journey for now. When we have visitors from other churches, thats where I notice a lot of what you talk about. 1 Thess 5:21 NAS God was treated like a genie in a bottle many times in church services. This is my story. The Catholic Church in effect falters when her members fall short of what they should be doing and believing. One thing I have observed, is that the truly godly ministers are not proud and self-seeking but humble before God, honest, and fearlessly devoted to Him and His truth, and their joy and desire is to obey Him, introduce others to Him, and give all the glory to Him . Vibrant and emotive worship. I could not take it anymore and had to leave. mostly on evangelising. I've never heard if you can't speak in tongues you're going to hell. Good afternoon, I also left the traditional church about three years ago, my worship is mostly in our lounge, studying the bible, praying and listening to a worship cd. So after I quit a good job where I had it all going for me, my life started to fall apart. I think when the leaders in one of the largest and fasting growing movements is the world are overtaken is foolish doctrine based on dreams/visions from shady sources we must all take notice. Maybe if I had read it I would have understood how God views false lying prophets and a corrupt priest which brings me to my point, false prophets and corrupt ministers leading many astray has become a staple in the charismatic movement that I could no longer ignore or be a part of with a clear conscious. Ive been humbled, but this thing has given me a new zeal not just to pursue Truth, but to pray for wisdom and discernment specifically, discernment of the spirits. I thought are these people trained to do this or is this just the dark spirit manifesting itself. If you call out a minister on their poor or even criminal behavior and present facts to back up your claim they either ignore you all together or get mad as a hornet. God can speak to us by the Holy Spirit, guide and lead us into what He wants us to know or show us what to do or where we need to be. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you. There was constant talk of apostles and prophets that God was raising up in these last days. It was top notch. Which led me to something else: I love the bible and can spend hours reading it. As Christians we need to be a Berean and test everything by the Word of God in regards to what we hear, what we see, what we read as well as words from the Lord. Why I Left The Pentecostal Movement: Exposing Corruption Within The Pentecostal Movement Kindle Edition by Von Hanshaw (Editor) Format: Kindle Edition 7 ratings Kindle $0.00 Read with Kindle Unlimited to also enjoy access to over 1 million more titles $2.99 to buy There were I have not walked away from my faith in Christ, only what I now consider false teaching and a system that is overtaken with false prophets and corruption. I guess this has been a long time coming. Thanks. Oh yes, we must have been in the same service because I heard all that nonsense as well. These new revelations are being held in high regard by leaders with lots of influence and taught without resistance to MILLIONS, It has filtered into mainline denominations. Free at last. We do not ever tell the Spirit what he must do in our lives because we deem it so. When you go to Church, you should keep your eyes on Christ and get eyes off people. I aint in apathy (sorry for my Southern-ese). I found myself caught in a terrible situation. http://bible.com/1/act.20.29-32.kjv, .Last thought: the charasmatics seem to think that falling on the floor and flailing like a fool, or giving some silly, vain super-positive prophecy solely designed to flatter the hearer and build up the recipient in the flesh, is the power of God. Kansas City (IHOP), Morningstar Ministries and Bethel Redding are what I considered great men of God preaching the true gospel. All the false prophetic words I have heard through the years and was still hearing. do. and leaders assumed that a guilty conscience was keeping me away from church. My wife left me after becoming involved with this movement. Thank God Amighty, I am free at last!. Another great testimony. Well Jo-Ann I fellowship with other like minded believers who have also left the corrupt system. It might take time, after three years I am still waiting for directions, but it doesnt matter. Also, I pray for discernment of those I meet. Your testimony is nearly identical to mine. Everywhere you read in scriptures the Torah was to be taught and followed FOREVER, EVERLASTING. When the Word and the Holy Spirit are manifested in a service, keep this in mind: true preaching will always exalt Christ and His teaching (Jn5:39) and, the manifestation of the Holy Spirit will always point to Jesus (Jn16:13,14). I never fit in when I tried to be super spiritual and faked most of the time. The church was definitely Pentecostal, but the supernatural gifts and miracles were rarely the focus Its one thing to interpret something different, its another to completely twist the word of God into the opposite of what it says and thats what theyre doing. Ellen white is a proven false prophet and I have no desire to follow a denomination who promotes them. Total conformity is required to fit in although it is unspoken, everyone knows it. Bless you as you too continue to seek His face! If you need to vent, Im here. Sounds to me like you were victim of the Pathetic and Propha-lying. I found this message grab my attention instantly. Absolutely not. In fact they generally condemn everyone who disagrees with them. 2:11 is talking about. But He did not say you all of you are apostate and lost and going to Hell. One thing that i experienced in years of study on Principalities and Powers of darkness is how Satan mimics the truth (exact opposite of Gods word) also that patterns are a quick way to discern his deceit. http://bible.com/1/gal.2.21.kjv, Galatians 3: Care for them. Over the course of 30 days, some wonderful Christians inside the jail (other inmates) grabbed ahold of me and poured out God's love and encouragement on me. Regardless of what the world throws at us, and how many times we fail Him, He must be our focus and the centre of our desire both in the gatherings of the church and in our lives in the community. - Does God still heal? Relationship with God was not the idea there. . ive approached my pastor on several disagreements ive had with him n hes explanation of it was satisfactory, we have council members so if the pastor is out of order we report to them and then it gets sorted. Gods peace and love-. We had daily bible studies and prayer groups. A Gospel preaching church. I still pray but Ive come to understand we must hold fast what is good and the greatest testimony is simply obeying His word regardless of the goosebumps. I have spent20years of my life in the Pentecostal/Charismatic Movement but something happened to me recently that caused me to walk away completely. When I read that it was like I saw it for the first time, I mean truly understood it. Go to YouTube and listen, you will be amazed, please, do this for your own benefit. You described it very well indeed. I am sorry for all your bad experiences. A true encounter of a spiritual kind (Angels, Holy Spirit) would leave you trembling, speechless and afraid for your very life. These are completely outside of his written word. I left for a more orthodox teaching. Enjoy! (very few tricks in his arsenal) . When I heard these false teachings, the Holy Spirit would always put a check in my spirit and it drove me to study the Scriptures to see if what they were saying was true. And shame on them for not doing so. The other thing is EVERYONE has the gift of prophecy? I pleaded with God to show me where I was I loved church fellowship and dressing up for church. join or stay or even attend on a regular basis. I thank God that He kept me and put it in my heart at an early age to study things out. The pressure Again, you cannot condemn all. But one legacy of the movement is confusion and mushy thinking. xx. Like many others, I joined because I was looking for something -- I wanted to be in a church that I could not believe this woman would manipulate teenagers out of what little money they had with zero shame.As I shared the incident with other believers in righteousoutrage,not one person said a word at that table, Not one. There are also some others and Independent Churches that are good. my life with enough faith to pray for my healing. I recall someone saying a long time ago that to read the bible is like a negative, the Holy Spirit colours it and give it life, so to speak. I loved it. I feel so duped not sure what our next chapter is going to bring. There are wonderful people on this newsfeed. The atmosphere was expectant. Faith was supposed to be like a muscle -- you had to use it in order for it to grow. heading in the wrong direction. To tell someone they dont have the Holy Ghost if they dont speak in tongues sets people up to speak in fake tongues or doubt their salvation. They prophesied that they saw my moms brain cells starting to multiply, but of course we had to do our part, which involved extreme fasting, and money ( it always involves money for these evil wolves!). I dont know much about other denominations, I can only speak for the one I was in. In Charismatic Chaos, John F. MacArthur calls for biblical evaluation and analyzes the doctrinal differences between charismatics and non-charismatics in the light of Scripture. Many times I would sit in church and hear the preacher say something and wonder, Is that even biblical? then I would wonder if I had a demon or an evil spirit of unbelief (welcome to Pentecostal thinking my friends). Nothing I could ever do I kept up to date on things going on in the charismatic movement; Scandal after scandal with International House of Prayer (IHOP), Morning star, Hillsong ministries and the list goes on.It was a pattern, one that bothered me.One incident occurred when Judy Jacobs a famous TBN minister got up at the Ramp in a prideful arrogant tone anddemanded the young kids at the Ramp (Youth Ministry) dig down deep in their pockets to give money for an offering so Karen Wheaton could buy a Bentley! Pentecostal and charismatic without many of the abuses that often come with it. MacArthurs cessationism is not fueled by his reformed views. (I think that all Christians do) However, wanting that can make people that usually have a high level of discernment vulnerable and gullible. I couldnt break the hold it had on her. thank you so much. Quite right puresola that SDA is a cult and Mrs White a false prophet and the link I supplied about the book The Great Controversy warns people to avoid it and SDA. having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? I am called to pray for the bride, I hope you all are too. It was completely different from my previous church. How To Get Over A Guy I Have Strong Feelings For? Bill Johnson and his wife are into grave soaking. Thanks. I just cant believe this is God. Sure, when God manifests Himself, you may get emotional and feel His Presence. We did a bible study. I was 21 years old when I truly came to know Christ and now I am 40 and let me tell you this stuff gets old. There must be some Its a mad house. For the first time, a man has won the women's Tour of the Gila. like I had done something wrong? According to most Sola Scriptura folk, a good many of whom are Calvinist/Cessationists, if it isnt in the bible then it isnt right. I now know it is manufactured, carnal and the tool Satan is using to raise up false converts with zero knowledge of the Word. The reason some people leave Pentecostal churches isnt because of Pentecostalism but because of Christianity in general. ever been sick in the first place. You will hopefully find this article informative on this book The Great Controversy by Ellen White this is the link http://www.takeheed.info/pdf/March-2014/The-Great-Controversy.pdf, Im not an Adventist although I know decent people who are. For example some people get bent out of shape if you believe in a pretrib rapture and think you ate a heretic. In that same chapter it warns about false prophets and that you will recognize them by their fruits (Matthew 7:15-20) and goes on to mention that these false prophets will be disappointed on the last day when Jesus turns to them and says I never knew you, get away from me you workers of lawlessness (Matthew 7:21-23). So they are leaving. Praise God another one of His with eyes wide open.woot woot, Reblogged this on DiscernIt and commented: why is my tiktok sound delayed iphone; is lena from lisa and lena lgbtq; charleston county school district staff directory; Payroll Services. Enough is enough. Have MERCY on those who waver; SAVE others by snatching them from the FIRE; have MERCY on others, but with fear, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.". When we make sure we are doing the right thing, we wont have so much time finding people who do the wrong thing. Why is putting bones in our mouths to spit out even considered an option. Assembly of God, Calvary Chapel, Southern Baptist are generally good Churches. Cool Dress I saw in episode of Somewhere Street on NHK-Japan Ready-to-Drink Starbucks Pink Drink Coming Soon to Grocery Shelves Nationwide. We get to validate his false prophecies and bad theology and they get our moneywin, win? Cry out to Jesus and repent for He is a God of restoration and will be a present help in your time of need. It put an enormous focus on the gifts of the spirit such as speaking in tongues/prophecy and how we were the Elijah generation and we would walk in signs and wonders and how that would cause this great revival. Once I got over being mad & looking for dirt on Bethel I prayed for discernment and was led to 1 John 4. My beliefs are based upon 40 years of exposure to the deception the OP writes about. Loved your post and I cannot thank you enough for posting it! Be blessed. It sees this gratitude as humiliating and oppressive. During the year that I attended that The pastors were friendly and easy going. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Hebrews 4:12. Through the years I didnt buy into many of the man-made traditions we had adopted like falling on the floor or thinking one had to speak in tongues to have the Holy Spirit nonetheless I went along with it because I didnt think it was hurting anyone. Pray for those who despitefully use you and persecute you Jesus said. I was suddenly able to consider that the ushers had been there pretty much 5 or 6 nights a week for 4 months. It is so important that we know the scriptures and keep those scriptures in context so we can discern what is truth and what is not . I got shoved out of the way by burly prayer ushers who were sullen and rude. I speak from experience. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: I currently attend these services and have never seen such a loving group of people that are determined to adhere to bible principles and demonstrate true brotherly love as God instructs. Webwhy are pentecostals so mean. A Serious Question for Black Americans (esp. But you, dear friends, as you BUILD UP YOURSELVES in your most Holy Faith [in God's, , keep yourselves IN THE LOVE OF GOD, waiting expectantly for the MERCY of our Lord Jesus Christ for Eternal Life.